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Post by FRODOFAN on Oct 6, 2005 13:36:28 GMT -5
The other day I was thinking....
Why is Meriadoc Brandybuck's nickname, Merry?
Why isn't it Meri?
Is there a reason or was it just because it looks better and reads better as Merry?
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Post by Mithmëoi on Oct 6, 2005 21:05:23 GMT -5
Maybe it's a nickname becuase he's a merry hobbit!  |
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Post by FRODOFAN on Oct 12, 2005 23:17:31 GMT -5
Hey, that's actually a possibilty. Funny, it never crossed my mind!  |
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Post by Øyvind on Oct 13, 2005 14:11:38 GMT -5
I think it's just for looks sake. It looks stupid with Meri, but in the first edition I think they wrote Meri some times...
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Post by FRODOFAN on Oct 23, 2005 16:16:34 GMT -5
Oh. I thought of something else, Peregrin? Pippin? Interesting.
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Post by estel on Nov 6, 2005 1:45:17 GMT -5
Very. Sometimes Merry called him Pip. I think Pery looks and sounds bad. So does Pe or Per. Don't you think? ;D
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Post by Øyvind on Nov 6, 2005 9:09:04 GMT -5
Per is a Norwegian/Danish/Swedish name, so don't say it looks stupid... But everyone knows nicknames are rarely just a shorter version of a name.
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Post by FRODOFAN on Nov 6, 2005 14:30:32 GMT -5
That's true. Pe and Per don't read as well though but they also don't have that curious and almost silly sound, like Pip. And that's good for the character I guess.
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Post by estel on Jan 8, 2006 18:25:57 GMT -5
I meant no offense. I was just saying itlooks better as pippin.
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Post by Mírwen Lindorië on Mar 8, 2006 15:37:15 GMT -5
Yeah, but Pippin was short, and there was someone in history called Peppin the short. Also, in england, Pip is another word for seed, and he is rather small. Also, there is a type of apple called the Peregrin Apple, so apple=seed, Peregrin= Pip, could be that, you never know. Did you guys read the book of lost tales, I forget what one it was, but there was a manuscript by tolkien that called Sam 'Odo', and Strider 'Trotter'. I thought that was interesting!
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Post by Eruadan on May 19, 2006 15:07:50 GMT -5
I think Tolkien just used those nicknames because they worked better word-wise or lyrically, they also sound more simplistic and common, kinda like the hobbits, which weren't these high-class regal characters. I think the nicknames were just compliments to their personalities. I think Trotter is hilarious; I know its probably since he traveled so much, but you can't help but laugh just a little bit.  |
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Post by Elvishmouse on Dec 23, 2006 20:04:57 GMT -5
It's possible that Tolkien came up with the nicknames first, and later thought of longer hobbit-names that would work with the shortenings. But I never thought about that before, it's interesting.
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Post by Haladan on Jan 15, 2007 14:22:44 GMT -5
...I've read a couple of fan-fics where one of the characters is called Meri (note, she was a female hobbit). It doesn't look that bad in a story.
I have no idea how 'Pippin' came from 'Peregrin,' though. It's a very interesting question. I wish we could ask Professor Tolkien.
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Post by FRODOFAN on Jan 16, 2007 21:39:48 GMT -5
Yes. Me too. I guess it's sort of like names like Ned though. It comes from Edward somehow?
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Post by Haladan on Feb 11, 2007 2:14:28 GMT -5
Lol, I have no idea. If it does, it totally confuses me.
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